ah you bet you didn't expect to see me again so soon now I must admit today's video is not the regular Roundup of news it's actually a conversation with a man that has literally caused an internet World War III this week Tommy the lawyer on Tik Tok made a four-part series on a lawsuit against Prime and it got a combined 17 million views other creators picked up on this and did their own videos and those two went viral and it started a chain reaction before you know it every comment section is saying that Prime is toxic mainstream media started running the story and a lot of people actually started believing it that is until it got so big that Logan pole had to address these rumors himself his video has done over 20 million views and a lot of people were saying that he cooked Tommy the lawyer and since then Tom has deleted his videos so I reached out to him to see what the hell was going on and I am happy to report to you that I have the world exclusive interview of Tommy the lawyer I got to ask him questions like how much money he made why did he delete these videos on Prime whether or not he's actually being sued by Logan pul right now and so much more so m present to you the full interview and I will see you again on Monday for the third video this week what the enjoy hello how you doing man how are you how old are you by the way have a wild guess oh man you're you're like 21 damn no 25 25 well at least atast you're like holy crap I guess before I I start I should probably give you an idea a little bit of like my idea for all of this so I went on an interview with ITV and they basically chopped it up in a way that was so terrible and it misrepresented so much of what I said that I was like if I do this if I'm doing interviews it cannot be like this so I'm trying to give you like the fairest possible way I mean the first question like I guess I just got to ask is how have the last few days been for you man uh they they've been interesting I I uh I think I've learned more lingo I thought I was young but I'm not that young like little bro is the most frequently used phrase to describe me now so uh but but I really think that it it is a lesson in in social media and how divisive and how quickly people can jump on one side of the other there were a lot of people jumping on what I said and then a lot of people jumping on what Logan said and I think there's got to be somewhere in the middle that some people can land yeah yeah yeah so what do you think the kind of General response has been since Logan posted his like on Tik Tok towards you have you got a good or a bad response both both I think I think a lot of people um are like surprised that when someone files a lawsuit right like they that case hasn't worked its way through the courts yet there's a whole process that occurs and I but I but I think there's some people that assume that you can just like lie in a lawsuit but the reality is is that there's sanctions for that right so I didn't even file the lawsuit but the lawyer who did if they really lied about that and didn't have evidence there's all these motions that uh Prime could have filed and didn't file to to sanction that lawyer for lying I kind of think I've been taking it on the chin for for a lawsuit I was just reporting on I've seen that you've made the decision to delete the videos what what's the the reason behind that uh I'll say this I have uh despite Logan's threat to me that I would be alone in a courtroom um I have multiple different lawyers in different states they have been in contact with Logan's lawyers but there's there's communication both ways and I I'll leave it I'll leave it at that for now so you couldn't say um if you've taken it down or not because you wouldn't be willing to stand on those claims if things went further no I it's not that I wouldn't be willing to stand on the claims it's that um that Logan escalated thing with getting lawyers involved I have lawyers involved there have been demands made by me of him and demands made by him me so irrespective of what I said which was fair reporting and there's no valid defamation claim that he could bring against me um I'm trying to do something that's rare in society today and that's kind of come together and have a more more of a dialogue with him and he may not want to to do that he may want to keep going tip Fort back and forth um and I certainly don't have as many followers as he does but I do have do have a few and I have a lot more thoughts on on the issue before this all happened with Logan Paul posting that that interview did anyone reach out to you before they posted or did it just happen and you were like oh here we are now no I was on live and and and uh someone was like dude Logan Paul just cooked you bro and uh I was I was like what and I went online and I saw this video and I saw my face like photoshopped with all this stuff um so so nobody reached out to me he just posted it can you explain any further on the demands that you're making of him or he's making of you nah not right now but uh but but uh there there either will be more dis there will definitely be more discussion from him on this and from me on this I think what that will look like I think remains to be seen in the next couple days so this is this whole Saga is definitely not over I don't think so uh I think I think Logan made a lot of statements in his video about both the lawsuit and me and I think there's a lot more to be explored in terms of prime as a product interesting and can you say anything specifically from his response that you think is incorrect he he made a statement in his response which was somewhere to the effect of that the lawsuit wasn't about the drink the lawsuit was about the plastic bottling now and so I was like H that's weird I I don't remember that and I went back and read the lawsuit and it I didn't the word plastic doesn't appear in the lawsuit and the word bottle doesn't appear the lawsuit alleges that there are these forever chemicals in the in the drink right so I found that interesting I wasn't sure if he was confused about which lawsuit he was talking about because there are so many against Prime I don't know if that's something people don't know but there are numerous lawsuits against Prime and I this is another thing that I think people get caught up on like oh it's just a lawsuit it's just a lawsuit like that's true in one sense but regardless of the stereotypes against lawyers most lawyers don't just go around suing people repeatedly unless there's like a reason to do so um so that's something people might want to think about did you manage to make any money from videos before they got taken down no dude everybody everybody's like you I'm like dude I have never like more power to you as a as a very influential but I I've made no money off those videos that's why like I got like hateful comments like bro like you just made money dude I haven't I'm I haven't made any money off them so you're not part of the Creator program in the US no no and uh I probably should be but uh but I'm I'm too old and dumb I guess to uh to have done that in your original video the one that got over 16 million you said that one bottle of prime contains more PFO chemicals than you should have in your entire lifetime drinking water then a food and chemical scientist I imagine you've seen this one on Tik Tok called food science babe basically called your claim specifically ridiculous and said that you mis understood the data and exaggerated it by 116,000 times to what the lawsuit said itself I'm assuming you've seen that video do you think she was wrong about that or so as a lawyer who um who litigates cases like this all the time there's always an expert on both sides right like if like someone sues they have an expert like a food science expert the defendant has a food science expert not surprisingly they're always saying different things um and I I I have the lawsuit here right in front of me and the allegation and I'll just read it uh is quote the amount of pfos found within the product referring to Brie grape from plaintiff's testing is approximately three times the recommended Lifetime Health advisory for drinking water like that's the allegation and this is the this is the uh epa's lifetime drinking water Health advisory which states that um the limit for pfos is 02 parts per trillion so in her video she essentially says and and to be fair I I've read it too and it is a pretty easy thing to misunderstand because of the way that it's it's it's said but essentially what she is saying and in very simple terms because when you start talking about 0.2 parts per trillion Etc it can get very confusing and we can lose a lot of people but what she is saying is that essentially the concentration that they are referring to which is the health advisory is what they're recommending for an entire lifetime so essentially if you can take all of that and you condensed it to the equivalent amount in prime it would be 3,000 parts per trillion instead of 0.02 so that's where she's saying once you do the math and you break it down and you put it in the equivalent amount um of what the advisory says that's where she gets her 116,000 Times Higher Than The Advisory yeah I think and one of the things that I'm going to do I'm going to test the prime I'm going to have the the the the the product tested not me I don't know what I'm doing but I'm going to hire an accredited uh lab to test the product on behalf of the father who hired me whose child has leukemia and I don't know if people forgot about that but like this started with me actually looking into this product because I was hired to to evaluate a potential case so on on the leukemia front another doctor has come out saying that to even claim that you could contract leukemia which is even the wrong terminology for that from a prime drink is so absurd that it's offensive to those with leukemia do you have any thoughts on that who is who is that who is that um Dr IDs he's a uk-based nutritionist Dr IDs so I've handled cases involving toxic exposure uh against Monsanto Bayer all these big companies and there's doctors that come in every single case and say that's insane that is ridiculous that's never going to happen and there's doctors that have said that and then juries have come back with multi-billion dollar verdicts in favor of the pl if in favor of the person suing so I don't know Dr is and I certainly I'm not I'm not up to watch their video but having doctors dispute what my experts say or what I say is kind of like just a regular Monday for me what I think about all of this is you know if if you are essentially reporting on what a lawsuit claims then no matter whether the the lawsuit that you're reporting on is factual or not you you shouldn't be held liable because you're just saying what this is you know is claiming but the one time which I think is specifically where your claims differ from what the lawsuit says itself is that one bottle of prime has three times the level that you should have in your entire lifetime that like carried this very far and a lot of other creators said that claim specifically and so if that isn't is n't the case which that this food scientist has broken it down which it seems it's not there could be a case in there where your individual claims could be seen as the problem and not the lawsuit itself I I don't think there's any claim at all as as a lawyer and that's not just me drinking my own Kool-Aid no pun intended I think that uh you're going to get a lot of people with opinions on social media but it seems that there's been this overriding theme that like this is correct and this is the interpretation but anybody commenting on the lawsuit and what I said even if they're a health scientist they're also just commenting on what someone else said like they haven't seen the results they haven't done the testing as far as I know the point that I was making was that specifically the the lawsuit is beside the point with this point here it's your alleged misinterpretation of the lawsuit that you then put on social media and it went viral like that's the specific thing I just want to know whether whether you dispute whether you are wrong or whether you you would say to be fair I misunderstood that I I shouldn't have said that or whatever what what do you think no I think it's a fair interpretation of what the lawsuit said period And I think quote the amount of pfos found within the product from plain of's testing is approximately three times the recommended Lifetime Health advisory for drinking water period And I think if you if people really want to like fight about that they should call or interview the lawyer who filed the case get the testing results and see what the numbers are that's my my view on it Logan said he had samples from every batch he said I have samples from every batch if he really wanted to put it to sleep he could have tested like numerous batches and been like boom here's the test results he didn't do that and I'm not saying that that's means he's liable but I'm just saying that he could have done that for eight months and he didn't do you think after all of this there's any credibility to the lawsuit I don't have an OP I don't have an opinion on on The credibility of the lawsuit but I know that lawyers who signed their name to to documents in federal court are subject to sanctions under rule Federal it's called Federal rule of civil procedure 11 and what federal rule of civil procedure 11 says is if you're going to sign your name to a lawsuit little bro you better be you if you are like misrepresenting stuff or if you're like you're you're going to get sanction you could get sanctioned you could get disbarred you could get in big big trouble Logan Paul today could file a motion if he wanted for sanctions against that lawyer saying you violated rule 11 your lawsuit is garbage this is complete garbage you're a liar I'm going to sanction you he's never done that right like like his lawyers like that dude has like some of the biggest most powerful law firms working like he has multiple like huge Global law firms like like people that went to Harvard Yale law school like clerked for the like US Supreme Court there are people that have clerked for the Supreme Court of the United States that work at some of the law firms he has like they know rule 11 they know like if this lawsuit is actually frivolous and actually false we could sue the living crap out of this lawyer or any lawyer Logan has never done that he's never done it right like none of his lawyers have sued these people like I think Logan's an excellent PR guy and has does excellent marketing and as much as his video has resulted in very aggressive and like threats to my family and me personally that's kind of how the First Amendment works right like it's free speech he did a video like I mean he ragged on my hair which it's cool dude I used to have I used used to I used to have more ha but like when you all get older this might happen to you too but yeah presumably all all of these law the these beverage brands have had lawsuits filed is there any reason why specifically you picked up Prime and you put it on social media was that because you knew it would get attention or do you think this one specifically the public needed to know about what do you think yeah no this a great question and and the answer is having been contacted by a father whose child had leukemia and having seen the allegations in the lawsuit I felt like it was important for people to at least know what was alleged particularly given that that the children are involved and then my My Hope was that people would do with that information what they wanted what actually happens it turned into uh social media World War III but but you know like it's a free country like and I said in a video I did yesterday like if Logan is right like Prime should win like whoop their butt in court like I'm all for the competitive process and you said that you're now going to go and get the prime bottles and drink specifically tested independently yes and I wanted to offer uh If Logan wanted to split the cost of the that uh testing we can do that because I don't want to be accused of oh you you paid for it and you're the you represent the you know the the kid I've even thought about giving him the choice of what lab he wants to choose okay do you have any any idea if he does say yes when you do this whenever whenever awesome okay and last question have you ever had prime yourself and what do you think about it never had it uh I I I uh I I've never had it so I don't have an opinion on it but I think lots of people like it um and it's very very popular if if if someone offered you a prime would you drink it not until I see the test results cool Fair answer Fair answer really appreciate your time Logan has a lot of followers whatever he says will be seen and I hope to even that out a little bit thanks man yeah I really I'll let you know like what I what I find out cool all right appreciate you cheers man later bye